If the gun has a two-letter prefix, it was made between 19. If the gun has a single-letter prefix, it was made between 19. The dust is nasty, & you need to wear a dust mask, but it was actually pretty easy to get good results with just common toolsĪs far as reloading, I do 3 load levels from revolver check out ( mouse fart loads ) to general use, to hotter self defense loads, that I don't run too many through the gun, but of which "most" will handle, in case I'm feeling like carrying one of my antiques. The gun has a serial number with no letter prefix it was made between 19. I had a 32 grip safety S&W, that did not have the correct grips, I found I was able to reshape a damaged set of mother of pearl grips I had, to fit the gun. so even the ones that have a chip or two, can often be refit to a smaller gun, of course if they are tiny & damaged, there's not much I can fit them to, but I've been using a Dremil & one of a couple grinding stone bits, to reshape. might have a couple MOP grips, but I've begun reshaping some of those. a Colt Single Action Army cost 13.00 and a Smith & Wesson top break cost 10.00. on top the barrel and on the bottom of the grip it is faint but says PAT NOV 4 then mayby two unreadable digits, over PAT PEND. those pics are actually pretty old ( as is this thread ) I haven't picked up any new top breaks since I took it though, but I've rearranged a bit. The second is serial number 61214 and has IVER JOHNSON ARM & CYCLE WORKS FITCHBURG MASS. *Automatic in this case means automatic ejection of fired cases when the gun was opened, as opposed to the swing cylinder "hand ejector" revolvers made by S&W and Colt which required an additional manual action to eject the empty cases. The second, 379,227 was to the same people, and was for a second or safety trigger behind the trigger guard which had to be pulled upward to allow the primary trigger to move.ĪFAIK, your gun has neither feature it was common at one time for companies (not just gun companies) to "pile on" patent dates to impress the buyer and discourage imitators, so many products show patents that were not used on that item or not even used at all. The first was 379,225 to Iver Johnson and Andrew Fyrberg for the barrel latch on the revolver frame rather than on the top strap. There were two relevant patents issued on March 13, 1888. If I understand the tables in the late Bill Goforth's book, that gun was made in 1904. Your gun is called the Safety Automatic* Revolver, Second Model Hammer Version, which was made from 1895 to 1908. Number 83351 / 346, in grip number 8330 or 83301 marked, left side right side Overall production was 950'000 revolvers. The Second Model Hammer continued in 1900 with the 1st variation and stopped in 1908 with the 6th variation. Single top latch, 50'000 were manufactured in 1896, serial number with A letter prefix, marked on the top of the barrel ribĭouble top latch, manufactured from 1897 - 1899, serial number with A, E or F letter prefix, marked on the top of the barrel rib Single top latch, 100'000 were manufactured in 1895, serial number without letter prefix, the difference was the cylinder retainer, marked on the top of the barrel rib IVER JOHNSON'S ARMS & CYCLE WORKS FITCHBURG. Single top latch, 100'000 were manufactured in 1894, serial number without letter prefix, marked on the top of the barrel rib ![]() Owl is looking to the barrel, cylinder is free wheeling when at rest, for black powder cartridges Still looking for year this particular gun was manufacturered.You need to know what model it is, 1st and 2nd models are black powder ONLY. Might note that the manufacturer of the gun was not too particular in exactly where they located the serial number on the grip frame because the first number 1 digit is cut into/across the screw head that holds the finger rest to the grip frame !!! Took the grips off and there is an "L" in the front of the serial number under the grips. It is dark now, so will try to post photos of it in the morning.Īssuming that the serial number IS 1417x, any idea as to the exact year of production ? It has a metal finger rest attached to the front of the grip frame, is an 8 shot and is SA only. Both the 1st digit and the 3rd digit both appear to be same, i.e. Does not appear to have any serial number inside of the frame and have not had a chance to take the grip off of it yet.ĭoes NOT appear to have any "L" in the serial number. I am read that off of the bottom of the trigger guard. Iver Johnson Top Break Revolver Iver Johnson Arms was founded in Fitchburg, Massachusetts in 1883.
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